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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 29, 2012 5:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Friends,

Before I get too distracted w/the onset of the approaching Franken-Mega-Storm here on the East Coast, I want to remind y'all of the perfect storm of a show--an historic mix of precision playing and powerful jamming meeting a front of unbounded energy on this date in 1977.

I call it the greatest Dead show of all time and I'll especially be playing the "Bertha" from this show today (substituting "Sandy" for the chorus), and I hope you'll take a moment or two to savor this gold standard show as well.

Peace and stay safe if you're in the storm's path.

GC

http://archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 29, 2012 8:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

I tried for you GC, but '77 just isn't my cuppa tea.

I went down to the shore yesterday and Long Island Sound was eerily still. As of this time the winds have begun to pick up. I hope that this FMS (Franken-Mega-Storm) doesn't decide to kick back, stall out and pour on us for days. Stay safe all you krazy kats & kittens.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Oct 30, 2012 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Re Sandy, thus far: I have to say, I can't believe what just happened. I watched some live shots last night from Bergen County, NJ and Teaneck, NJ. I'm from the next town over. They got hit real hard in NJ.

At a Press Conference just now, Mayor Bloomberg said: "NYC's Public Transportation remains shut down until further notice."

As of this morning, the total size of this superstorm exceeds one million square miles. Over six million people are without power. Not to mention, there are huge snowstorms across Appalachia.

Hurricanes are not caused by man-made global warming. But in my mind, man-made global warming conditions have intensified this storm, and other storms.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 30, 2012 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

+1 Monte.

In my little corner of Queens, NY, not much damage... but only 5 miles away, 50 or more homes burned while firefighters struggled to gain access in chest deep water and whipping winds. This storm will have untold economic impact, as the cleanup and restoration will take weeks. This is the only time in memory that all access, tunnels, bridges, airports, and transit have been completely shut down.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 30, 2012 3:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Good to hear, UJ; thx for letting us know.

Though one cannot ascribe a precise proportional slice of blame for humankind, neither can we ignore the mounting evidence of increasing frequency of ever more dramatic storms in recent history. Just ask SDH how many of the hottest days on record have been in the past 30 yrs hereabouts.

Be safe...

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Poster: billydlions Date: Oct 30, 2012 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Breaking all those records from the 1930's? I suppose we must be partially responsible, but why was the heat back then normal but today it must be from SUVs? If it is 50-100% from humans I doubt there's much we can do about it anyway, so why argue...We had one of our cooler summers in FL this year, but I wouldn't mind a little (or a lot) of global cooling.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 30, 2012 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Actually, ours go back 120 yrs, and statistically, there's no denying the HUGE increase; with indirect measures via tree rings and such, you can even infer shifts over the past 4000 yrs, but why rub it in?

;)

Good to see ya, BD2!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 1, 2012 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Ok, so I listened to this show ... great show, except that I was jolted out of my chair during Not Fade Away by a truly hellish Donna screech. I mean this is one of the awfulest. at about 4:20, for those of you masochistic enough to check it out.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Oct 31, 2012 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Re: "in my mind, man-made global warming conditions have intensified this storm, and other storms"

Here in Colorado this year, we had numerous firestorms well before the normal fire season. It was unprecedented. We have been experiencing unusual heat waves and long term drought conditions out here. It's very bad. This year's heat and drought was ridiculous. This NASA animation clip shows a scientific visualization of Global Temperature Anomalies from 1880 to 2010. Global warming is an undeniable fact. Colorado was clobbered this year, including here in Fort Collins.

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Grey Rock was hammered by fire twice this year
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Grey Rock is the most popular hiking spot in the mountains nearby Fort Collins.

http://archive.org/post/437271/posting-pics -- I took this photo when hiking up Grey Rock six weeks ago
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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 1, 2012 12:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

If you make your sample set small enough you can prove anything.

While global warming/climate change certainly appears to be undeniable fact, the cause is just as undeniably unproven. Anthropogenic or intracyclic? Who knows? Pure, objective data doesn't exist anymore and "peer reviewed" really means "special interest sponsored".

I don't disbelieve global warming/climate change is occurring. I don't believe the anthropogenic contribution is as large as one side would have you believe, nor as insignificant as the other side would want you to believe.

Regardless, I don't think there is much we can do about it as it appears something has triggered what may be potential severe adverse forcing feedback functions.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Nov 1, 2012 2:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Colorado is getting hugely impacted by all this.The future of our water, clean air, and soils is in great danger. People like me, and 97 percent of the world's scientists, believe that global warming is made worse by man-made greenhouse gases due to burning fossil fuels.

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We should also be reducing our methane emissions, which is 8 or 9 times more of "greenhouse gas" than CO2 is. Natural Gas is methane. What is Colorado doing? Drill, Baby, Drill! The next county over from here, Weld County, has 19,000 oil and gas wells. They are getting ready to frack and drill in Larimer County (here) and Fort Collins right now. They are fracking us to death!

fractivist%2B%252B%2Bfractivist.com%2B%252B%2Bweld%2Bcounty%2B%252B%2Bcolorado%2Bfracking.jpgFirestone, CO is the area shown in this map. Here are the 19,000 active oil and gas wells in Weld County, CO. Each red dot represents up to 52 active wells. This individual has 75 active wells within a one mile radius of his home in Firestone!

How much fugitive methane emissions are they reporting? None is being reported. How much TRI (Toxic Release Inventory) releases are being reported? None. This is a pure fairy tale! And we have the Haliburton loop-hole allowing them to use unreported toxic chemicals and leave unknown amounts of them underground, without getting a deep-well injection permit. Drought-stricken farmers are being pressured by the oil and gas companies to sell them their water rights. Some towns are selling their water to oil and gas outfits. Typically, millions of gallons of water get used for EACH well. Natural gas is a bridge fuel to an environmental catastrophe.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 1, 2012 2:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

They say things are done for the majority
don't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear
It's like what my painter friend Donald said to me
"Stick a fork in their ass and turn them over, they're done"

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 1, 2012 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

Hot Damn!

I know, I know, you were there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7H9l5BNyfI

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 1, 2012 7:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: So?

Here's the problem with your charts Monte. Mean CO2 levels without correlation to temperature is at best a straw man and at worst deliberately misleading. And while 97% of all the scientists in the GW/AGW/CC pissing contest may agree that GW is made worse by greenhouse gases, I haven't seen definitive, independent studies that quantitatively define "worse".

Here are a few charts of HadCRUT3 vs HadCRUT4 temp changes that don't appear to have any causal relationship with CO2 levels. Note that they span 140 years and not 5. Unless you are saying that all of the CO2 emissions from the Industrial Revolution didn't show up until the '60s. .75 degrees in 140 years??????

http://www.peakprosperity.com/sites/default/files/resize/remote/539e9598f24ab57815553e8d565cab79-600x419.jpg

This one is particularly telling because it clearly shows that temp increases for the next 10-20 years are based on modeling projections. Except for the third scenario which is flat.

http://www.columbia.edu/~mhs119/Temperature/T_moreFigs/PNAS_GTCh_Fig2.gif





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And you are aware that NG companies have been using fracking for extraction for almost 60 years? I can appreciate the fervor with which you are throwing down, but I also think you are cherry picking data and hot button topics that are only being reported skin deep and driven by agendas rather than facts.

Don't get me wrong. I think climate change is a very real issue. You think it's a problem that must be addressed right now. I think it's a predicament that is going to run its course whether we do anything or not.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Nov 1, 2012 8:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So?

I am not a scientist, and I don't pretend to be one, and I don't play one on these forums. I do know atmospheric CO2 levels are at 392 ppm and they keep rising due to man-made burning of fossil fuels. The charts I posted show this data. I am understanding that our temperature and CO2 increases correlate, and they are tracking upward together. Are you saying climate scientists have this wrong?

I believe in what James Hansen is saying. I believe in what Bill McKibben is saying.

As far as environmental investigative reporting is concerned, Mark Hertsgaard has worked for more than 20 years on climate change. He is the environmental correspondent for The Nation magazine. A recent book of his is "Hot: Living Through the Next Fifty Years on Earth". I urge you and others to watch / listen / read this 17-minute interview on Democracy Now with Mark Hertsgaard from April 15, 2011.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Nov 1, 2012 9:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So?

Re: fracking for extraction for almost 60 years

This evening I went to the Planning & Zoning Board meeting here to make public comment with others about all this gas and oil drilling and hydraulic fracturing (a.k.a. "fracking") coming to Fort Collins all of a sudden. There was an "industry expert" guy there who spoke and said the same thing as you about "fracking safety for sixty years".

Neither one of you mentioned that only recently, during the past five years or so, is when all this horizontal drilling technology starting being used in the field. Because of this "new" technology, and "the Haliburton loop-hole", the NG and oil guys are fracking "everything, everywhere." And I showed you the map with 19,000 active wells clustered in my face. Thousands and thousands of them are New wells.

Chemicals such as toxic benzene, toluene, and xylene are being used by drillers in their fracking fluids. Some people who live nearby NG (and oil) fracking wells are getting sick. Some kids are having asthma problems. Some adults are getting bloody noses, etc. These cases happened only after NG (and oil) fracking wells began operating nearby them. I think people should object to this.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 1, 2012 9:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So?

I have friend in the NG industry - benzenes and toluenes have been used since the late '40s, early '50s.

I don't have any experience with NG extraction and fracking. My gut tells me there are some potentially serious shortcomings with fracking - especially if done improperly - but in the final analysis, it's nowhere near as safe as industry experts proclaim it to be, nor is it as dangerous as opponents claim it is.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Nov 2, 2012 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So, what's the real reason Josh Fox was arrested?

Re: "nowhere near as safe as industry experts proclaim it to be, nor is it as dangerous as opponents claim it is"

People back east are getting fracked bigtime by NG drillers right now. This is a huge deal. I recommend reading this journalism report from ProPublica, by Abrahm Lustgarten, on May 1, 2012
A new study has raised fresh concerns about the safety of gas drilling in the Marcellus Shale, concluding that fracking chemicals injected into the ground could migrate toward drinking water supplies far more quickly than experts have previously predicted.

More than 5,000 wells were drilled in the Marcellus between mid-2009 and mid-2010, according to the study, which was published in the journal Ground Water two weeks ago. Operators inject up to 4 million gallons of fluid, under more than 10,000 pounds of pressure, to drill and frack each well.

Scientists have theorized that impermeable layers of rock would keep the fluid, which contains benzene and other dangerous chemicals, safely locked nearly a mile below water supplies. This view of the earth's underground geology is a cornerstone of the industry's argument that fracking poses minimal threats to the environment.

But the study, using computer modeling, concluded that natural faults and fractures in the Marcellus, exacerbated by the effects of fracking itself, could allow chemicals to reach the surface in as little as "just a few years."

"Simply put, [the rock layers] are not impermeable," said the study's author, Tom Myers, an independent hydrogeologist whose clients include the federal government and environmental groups.

"The Marcellus shale is being fracked into a very high permeability," he said. "Fluids could move from most any injection process."
There was a "book report" about ProPublica's investigation. This was posted to WordPress written by Iris Marie Bloom for Protecting Our Waters, a Philadelphia-based grassroots nonprofit organization.
Dr. Anthony Ingraffea has already established, based on PA DEP data, that Marcellus Shale well casings have failed at a rate of 6.2% in Pennsylvania in 2010 and 2011, causing immediate fluid migration (lecture by Ingraffea at “Marcellus Exposed” symposium, March 17th, 2012). But this new study shows that even without casing failures, fluid migration into aquifers will occur, and faster than almost anyone thought.
People back east should understand this means eventually these toxic cocktails are going to be coming out of their water faucets in their homes. The question is, will it be sooner, or later?

— Why was journalist Josh Fox arrested on Feb 1, 2012 in our U.S. Congress? —
Josh Fox was arrested for filming the Congressional Hearing on Natural Gas Fracking!

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Josh Fox is the filmmaker for the documentary "Gasland"

The Academy Award-nominated filmmaker Josh Fox was handcuffed and arrested as he attempted to film a congressional hearing on the controversial natural gas drilling technique known as fracking, which the Environmental Protection Agency recently reported caused water contamination in Pavillion, Wyoming. Fox directed the award-winning film, "Gasland," which documents the impact of fracking on communities across the United States, and is now working on a sequel. Fox says he was arrested after Republicans refused to allow him to film because he did not have the proper credentials. "We wanted to report on what happened [at the hearing]. I was not interested in disrupting that hearing. It was not a protest action," says Fox. "I was simply trying to do my job as a journalist and go in there and show to the American people what was transpiring in that hearing, so that down the line, as we know there will be a lot of challenges mounted to that [Pavillion, Wyoming] EPA report—and frankly, to the people in Pavillion, who have been sticking up for themselves and demanding an investigation into the groundwater contamination—and to make sure that people could view that in a larger forum than usually happens." watch / listen / read an interview about this on Democracy Now

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Nov 2, 2012 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: So?

Re: last evening, I went to the Planning & Zoning Board meeting here to make public comment with others about all this gas and oil drilling and hydraulic fracturing (a.k.a. "fracking") coming to Fort Collins all of a sudden.

listen to my village-idiot public comment - my comment is 2:49, mp3 audio

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Last year on Nov 1, 2011, I was speaking at a Fort Collins City Council meeting with Occupy Fort Collins activists. We were asking city leaders to add more wintertime shelter for the homeless who are living here. here is that pic of me publicly speaking.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Fantastic show! Your championing of it is much appreciated. I don't know if I'd have found it otherwise :-)

So is 10/29/73, to keep with the ’73 theme. Even if Phil did have a Heineken every 15 minutes during that era, when he “wasn’t drinking or doing drugs.” (I guess it depends on the definition of “not.”) And if you folks are battening down the hatches and staying out of the weather, you’ll have time for both. (Edit -- um, I mean both shows!)

But poor Sandy. She really doesn’t deserve to have a storm like that named after her. At least not lately. It’s been at least a year since she ate the Playstation. Our sunny Sandy:

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Stay safe, all!!! No playing of LLR allowed. Or even worse, Samson. I can't think of any GD lyrics about falling trees, but bringing down buildings seems like a bad suggestion right about now.



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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 29, 2012 8:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Great Picture! When i was growing up my neighbor had a dog named Sandy that had a very similar coat color and look. Not likely to have been an Indian Pariah dog in suburban philly.

Given the forecasts of this thing colliding with that polar express after landfall, I think Cold Rain and Snow might be on the no listen list as well. I'm guessing LLR wasn't on that many must listen lists anyway!

Good luck to all those in Sandy's incredibly large path. It really points to the inadequacies of using the Safir-Simpson Scale as the sole determinant of what the NHS considers a major hurricane (Class 3-5).

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 29, 2012 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Yes, the 10/29/73 show is also splendid, particularly the "Eyes" from that show. Doesn't reach the jamming heights of 4 years later but is one of the sweetest versions around. Mellow and jazzy.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 29, 2012 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

That's cracking me up, Phil having a Heineken every 15 minutes when he wasn't drinking. I guess his liver didn't think it was so funny, but I guess you had to be there ...

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

your dog is named Sandy? Hmmm....have you ever been to Jerry Day at McLaren Park, San Francisco?

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

No. Why?

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

I have a female deadhead friend who has a dog named Sandy

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Our Sandy has never been to America, actually. She's an adopted street dog. She's what's known as an Indian Pariah Dog, a "primitive dog" and one of the most ancient types of dogs around. Also very smart and cute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_pariah_dog

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 29, 2012 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Indian Pariah Dogs ... that sounds like a good name for an indie band, maybe I'll suggest it to my son for his band.

Sandy's very pretty and sounds like a sweetheart! (Althea's dog, I mean, not this mothereffin' storm ...)

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 29, 2012 4:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

ring -

Are you making out okay with Ms Sandy?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 29, 2012 4:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Hi Mando, thanks for asking, we're fine so far. Basically just a little wind and rain. We're stocked up with emergency supplies if the power goes out. The lights have been flickering.

Oh, the dreadful wind and rain ...

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 29, 2012 5:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Good to hear. We were spared in Va Beach for once. Irene's eye went right over the house. I hope everyone is as well off as we were this time around.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Oct 29, 2012 6:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Reminder about hurricane Sandy:
Anybody remember Romney’s New Global-Warming ‘Joke’?
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/09/03/romneys-new-global-warming-joke/

At the 2012 Republican National Convention and on the campaign trail, Mitt Romney has come up with a new laugh-line, mocking President Obama’s policies to slow global warming. In doing so, Romney distorts a quote from an Obama speech in 2008 about ocean levels.

Romney has made clear one thing about his environmental views: he has contempt for President Barack Obama’s efforts to promote alternative energy and combat global warming.

Fitting with the new Republican orthodoxy that climate-change science is either a hoax or hysteria, Romney has incorporated into his speeches a joke about Obama’s interest in protecting the environment, a sure-fire laugh line for the GOP faithful.

In his acceptance speech at the RNC, Romney said, “President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans (pause for mocking laughter) and heal the planet. MY promise is to help you and your family.”

Why is no one discussing global warming and climate change anymore? Last election season, presidential hopefuls Barack Obama and John McCain agreed that climate change was a critical issue demanding urgent attention. Four years later, both candidates Obama and Mitt Romney barely discuss climate change. In fact, the words were never uttered during any of the three presidential debates.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/environment/climate-of-doubt/how-does-climate-change-factor-into-decision-2012/

I have said many times: "You make your own bed, and then you lay in it."
http://archive.org/details/Occupy-The-White-House_Keystone-XL-Pipeline-Protest

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

"Why is no one discussing global warming and climate change anymore?"

Because your boy Obama doesn't give a shit about climate change either. He only told you that 4 years ago because he knew it's what you wanted to hear so you'd vote for him.

The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is what they do with your money after they steal it.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 29, 2012 11:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

I disagree. I think there is a big difference between Obama and Romney (and Dems and Republicans in general) on climate change and the environment. Obama hasn't been perfect, but he has delivered on some promises. We've doubled our output of renewable energy. Romney opposes many of the tax credits and other measure that make that possible. There are many other issues on which they differ: Including, of course, whether or not climate change is even real! At least Obama admits the obvious. Mitt and the rest of the R's have their heads buried in the sand.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 29, 2012 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

The President just doesn't seem to want this election. Reminds me of Bush in '92 and Carter in '80. I can't believe some of the statements from his campaign, like when they pulled the financial plug in N.C. or the high level of rat jumping, Paul Begala being among the foremost.

Of course, no one is serious about being serious and the rearranging of the deck chairs makes my eyes flutter and my brain go weak. I don't know ... I'd naively like to hear something about energy self-sufficiency or maybe reconstructing our fiat currency ... silly me.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 1, 2012 1:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

I think we haven't heard from you since the storm. I hope you're not without power, but I suspect you are ... check in when you can Micah.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

while there may be climate change, people have VERY little effect on it. I blame cyclic sun activity and natural earth cycles, while politicians cook the books and cash in on the blame game to put MANY idiotic EPA controls on my liberty.

You should admit that at least some of this is true - (or not)

Why doesn't the EPA go after Monsanto and it's poisen Roundup CRAP and GMO's, which cause serious health problems. Not a peep about this from Mitt or Obama. Imo, the EPA is a corrupt agency thats owned by controlling, globalist type-alarmists

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 29, 2012 8:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Maybe because of this.

Romney's Monsanto connections:

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/romney-monsanto-bain

Obama's Monsanto connections:

http://www.naturalnews.com/037310_Barack_Obama_Monsanto_lobbyist.html


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Poster: mklsgl Date: Oct 29, 2012 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Don't forget about Biden's (and many other DC/Beltway) connections to Dow and Dupont.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Oct 29, 2012 9:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

I agree with Mando: "they're all Republicrats and thieves nowadays". Regardless, the difference between the two of them is that one of them is way more scary to me than the other. Both parties have abandoned their values and have completely sold out.

Re EPA: most employees there are career pollution players and they are part of the corporate-run revolving door system. EPA whistleblowers are being "gone after" more vigorously than ever, rather than being protected. The EPA are your polluters' best friends. It's always been this way, but it's much worse now because of all the lobbyists.

Re climate change: I believe in facts, truth, honesty, math, science, physics, and reality. These attributes worked damned well for me when I taped the Grateful Dead numerous times in 1973. Therefore, I agree with 97 percent of the world's scientists. They are saying global warming is being influenced by man-made causes due to the burning of fossil fuels. Atmospheric increases in CO2 are creating a greenhouse warming effect. Personally, I have never liked cap-and-trade as a fix to this.

Re Monsanto: All told, the production and processing of Monsanto's GMO crops, from deforestation to fossil-fuel-based pesticides and fertilizers, polluting factory farms, and fuel-intensive food processing and distribution, is estimated to produce up to 51% of global greenhouse gas emissions.

Re liberty: I'm taking my values to the grave with me. Among them has always been my own free-will to be open, willing, and able to change my own behavior, and to adapt my own thinking. I've never been a sheeple. And today I despise the misuse of the word "resilience" as some sort of global way to dodge the world's solvable problems. We hit 7 billion population in 2012. This is not about me. I am trying to die as fast as I can. Unfortunately, my dying quickly does nothing to benefit the dilemma that younger people are facing.

Lastly, Jerry Garcia and I agree 100 percent about the problems that deforestation are causing, and we both love and admire the Greenpeace organization and their activism. http://archive.org/post/434381/really-on-bobs-lap

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Oct 29, 2012 9:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

"Like" :)

(Influence is a decent term)

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Oct 31, 2012 7:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Re: "I taped the Grateful Dead numerous times in 1973. I've never been a sheeple."

13 Ways to Be a Sheeple (and guarantee you'll never tape anything)
-- written by Eduard Ezeanu

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When you’re a sheeple, life is very simple. Each day you wake up, go to work, get back home, watch some TV, eat three meals and take one good shit. You’re not exactly living to your full potential, but you’re not stressing yourself either.

And being a sheeple is not hard, which is probably why lots of folks are doing an excellent job at being one. There is just a small set of specific things you have to do, and you’re guaranteed to be a certified sheeple. Here they are:

01. Emulate Other People’s Goals in Life
02. Always Follow the Latest Trends
03. Buy Expensive Stuff just because it’s From Famous Brands
04. Hang Out With Mediocre People
05. Get All Your Information from Mainstream Media
06. Don’t Stay Too Well Informed
07. Adopt the Opinions of the Majority
08. Always Obey Authority Figures
09. Avoid Disapproval like the Plague
10. Reject Divergent Ideas by Default
11. Let Inertia Be Your Guide
12. Judge Others Based On Appearances and Stereotypes
13. If Your Life Sucks, Blame the System

If you live by the rules I outlined so far, without any doubt, your life will suck. Yes, it will be simple and uncomplicated, but it won’t be fun and fulfilling either. Your emotions will mostly swing from boredom to mild amusement to frustration to depression to boredom again.

You’ll have little noticeable accomplishments and the main “adventures” you’ll go through will be stuff like spending an entire night at the office to get “an important report” ready for the next day.

When they realize their life sucks, the distinctive reaction of any authentic sheeple is to blame the system. So, do this.

Convince yourself that it’s not your fault; it’s the system’s fault. The system should have taken care of all your needs and make you happy, without requiring you to think for yourself, not believe everything you’re told, have initiative, find your own path and follow it.

Assuming responsibility for your own existence implies thinking responsibly and rationally. And that’s not what a sheeple does. It’s so much easier to blame the system! Your life will continue to suck, it will probably get worse with every passing day, but at least you will not feel guilty about it.

Okay! You now have the precise instructions for being a sheeple. I hope it’s obvious from the tone of this article that I showed you these instructions hoping that you’ll to the exact opposite of what they prescribe. This article is intended as a satire.

However, if taking the easy path is more important to you than living the best life you can, than by all means, follow these instructions. After all, that’s what a good sheeple does. It follows. And it’s possible that society needs sheeple, just as it needs free thinkers.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 29, 2012 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

"Re climate change: I believe in facts, truth, honesty, math, science, physics, and reality. These attributes worked damned well for me when I taped the Grateful Dead numerous times in 1973."

LOL. Monte, I don't always agree with you, but I like your style. That's a great quote.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 29, 2012 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

I will second Ring's sentiments Monte,and I often agree to certain degree with many things you say.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Oct 29, 2012 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Finally. another pic of Sandy. Truly a beautiful (EDIT)INDog, and quite mischievous looking. If something happens, she WILL be ready :} Does her tail double as a toilet brush? jokes... thx for the pic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Jq_zOh_9k
http://archive.org/details/gd71-12-31.fm.lanum.135.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by craven714 on 2012-10-29 15:21:50

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Oct 29, 2012 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

" I can't think of any GD lyrics about falling trees"

"Ashes, ashes, all fall down', especially in areas with the emerald borer.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 29, 2012 4:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sandy

Bravo.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Oct 29, 2012 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grendel's Annual TDIH reminder

excellent.
I will stick with Bertha though :)
Been through many hurricanes in Key West, but this is my
first above the 'Manson-Nixon' line.
Thx for the rec grendel. Off to 77

Ran into a rainstorm
Ducked back into a bar door
It was all night pouring, pouring rain
But not a drop on me

NOT on me...



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